Marisa González. A Generative Way
Inaugural Conversation between Marisa González and Violeta Janeiro Alfageme

Marisa González, Violencia Mujer: La descarga, 1975-1977. © Marisa González, VEGAP, Madrid, 2025
Held on 20 May 2025
In conjunction with the opening of the anthological exhibition devoted to Marisa González (Bilbao, 1943), this encounter opens a dialogue between the show’s curator, Violeta Janeiro Alfageme, and the artist to explore González’s work from different perspectives, spotlighting the historical and artistic context of a particular time and parsing her personal experience and creative processes.
The conversation also seeks to delve deeper into the content of the show, which ranges across five decades of artistic output, and to foreground the artist’s constant exploration with different media. It underscores her interest in the machine and new technology as creative tools, and her strong political commitment, in addition to delving into some of the key themes running through her work, from feminism and associationism to the poetics of debris and waste, and the dynamics of subordination and oppression in a neoliberal context.
These inaugural conversations, part of the main working strands of the Museo’s Public Programmes Area, aim to explore in greater depth the exhibition narratives of the shows organised by the Museo from the perspective of artists, curators and specialists.
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Inaugural Conversations
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Participants
Marisa González
(Bilbao, 1943) is an artist and pioneer in the use of new technology applied to art. The reproduction of images and the use of fragments and repetition to generate form are constants running through her practice. González also trained extensively in music and visual arts: she studied piano at the Music Conservatory of Bilbao and obtained degree in Fine Arts from the Complutense University of Madrid in 1971, an MA from the Art Institute of Chicago (USA) in 1973 and a bachelor’s degree in Fine Arts from the Corcoran School of the Arts in Washington D.C. in 1976, where she also received an End-of-Degree Award. Her art-making, based on the assemblage of techniques, has been exhibited widely at many art institutions, with over sixty solo and 150 collective shows, and her work is part of different major collections. In 2023, she was the winner of Spain’s Velázquez Award for Plastic Arts.
Violeta Janeiro Alfageme
(Vigo, 1982) holds a PhD in Art History from the University of Santiago de Compostela. Her work focuses on the memory of women’s resistance movements against the Spanish dictatorship and on collaborative, community and procedural artistic practices which impact the public sphere. She has co-curated exhibitions at the Centro de Arte Dos de Mayo (CA2M) (Móstoles, Madrid), the Museo Universitario Arte Contemporáneo (MUAC) (Mexico City), the Museo de Arte Contemporáneo de Vigo (MARCO) (Vigo, Pontevedra), and curated projects at Städtische Galerie Kubus (Hannover, Germany) and Matadero Madrid. In 2023 and 2024 she directed the FotoNoviembre XVII International Photography Biennial. Her exhibition ¿Cómo continuar? (How to Continue?) [Lima, 2021] won an award from the Association of Curators in Peru. At the present time, she is putting together a show for Le 19, Centre Régional d’Art Contemporain (CRAC) (Montbéliard, France).
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